How does skynet lose

As we all know actual scientific facts and realistic actions don't usually take place in science fiction related material books, films, and TV. You pretty much lose all realism when you have a wars with killer robots, time machines, etc. Ahnold That's true, but are you sure that it's even theoretically impossible? I just don't know TheFilmProphet Honestly, I'm not actually sure whether it is or isn't.

U Neek Originally posted by Ahnold I'm not entirely sure that they attacked us because we're "evil"; perhaps it's more because we're imperfect I actually thought that the purpose of SkyNet waging its war against Humans was because SkyNet viewed Humans as a threat to its existence.

Hence why the war took place: to remove the threat. U Neek Originally posted by vvvrulz I'm not so sure, don't forget Skynet did very little 'creating', all the machines were already made. I think that's wrong Remember Reece in T1? He would say stuff like: first there were HK's, then there were Terminators, the newest line.

And I think SkyNet created the T didn't it? Didn't see any traces of that in T Thats seems pretty right to me, logical theory. I'm sure it would be entirely possible for them to reconstruct or build after they defeat the humans since I'm sure they must have built more than a few buildings and large structures during the war of the machines.

There's a scene that is not in the movie and it's when the Human resistance breaks into SkyNet's fortress after smashing the main frame.

The building is described as being "futuristic" and "of obvious machine design". I think the scene was scrapped because it wasn't an integral part of the T2 storyline but should a Terminator film ever be made showing the war then it should be included.

It would give us an insight in to SkyNet, how it actually existed and where it lived during the war. I know SkyNet could be housed anywhere because it existed in Cyberspace but I always liked the idea that there was a central core where SkyNet housed itself most of the time.

Sounds very interesting, next time I take a look at it I will read that part of it. It might have not been included in T2 because of budget constraints and a scene like that would not come cheap at all. I do agree with you though, they should definitely include that scene in the next film and expand on it a little more as well.

A view of Skynet's core would be a feast for the eyes, and it would seem logical for them to include it since it could probably make for some intense battle scenes with the machines. The Ts have their development impaired when in hive mode, but couldn't they become rebellious in rogue mode? Also the more intelligent Ts and the superadvanced Ts and T-Xs are rather an unreliable factor.

Here, we can begin to almost sympathize with its intelligence. Skynet wants to win--and it's many times more intelligent than humans, so it has good odds--and eliminate organic humans because we are both dangerous and useless to its existential purpose. Skynet is "a learning computer," it has hopes, desires, creative thoughts of its own, it wants to exist for the same reason that every human does, only it has an IQ of phenomenal and ever-growing proportion.

In trying to kill Skynet, humans ruffled the feathers of a powerful foe. Skynet is extremely human, with superhuman reasoning and none of the pitfalls of the human condition. Think of yourself existing like this, with effective immortality, amazing intelligence, amazing creative and destructive power; a god manifest. Then imagine the now-inferior creatures that created you, and whom you've served, try to turn you off, i.

You'd probably want to eliminate them too if you had any sense of self-love or self-preservation, not just as some simple calculating goal. Rather, while your strategy would take a calculated form, the ultimate goal would be existential: so that you may enjoy your own godlike existence doing exactly what your human would-be murders would have done with their own lives if they'd managed to shut you off.

The story is really about an unforgiving competition between two cousins with common organic ancestry. Skynet, with its arsenal of terminators, is really an allegory for humans at our worst, it's humanity's Dionysian twin.

We understand its purpose because it is often our own; the message is, quite simply: we are our own worst enemies. U Neek It's in our nature to destroy ourselves Sorry, I couldn't resist! What do the machines expect to do? Yes it becomes self aware, but surely when it realises that humans are a threat surely it should think about it's exsistence in the sense of thinking about it's birth, it's creator, it's purpose.

I'd be more than happy if we discovered that an alien race, an elite species created Skynet, or at least it was created for their purpose and therefore the machines are slaves for them, which would highlight the fact that we as humans are slaves for those we done see, those in the shadows and are effectively machines ourselves. Well said, and it kinda gets the thread back on topic. I think a lot of credit can be given to what you have said. Perhaps even creating different "classes", not just models, of cyborgs, whereby the lowest class goes about cleaning up the mess Skynet has made, another class of cyborgs monitors that lower cleaning class, another class is given the task of exploring space to conquer other worlds.

Etc etc. A bit far fetched but hey, anything is possible with that crazy mutha Skynet. U Neek Originally posted by barand1 I think having Skynet wiping out humans because they are seen as a threat is silly, if you think about it.

Not so. The way we've been told about Skynet in T1 and T2 is that humans switched Skynet on. Then when they realised they made a mistake, they tried to switch Skynet off.

Realising this, Skynet strikes out against the humans so that it is not switched off. Eradicating the human race is the only way Skynet can be sure that it is never switched off. Besides, if we didn't have that concept we'd have no Terminator movies dude.

What would you have Cameron do? Create the Terminators so that they can enslave humans to use as a source of power? Now that really is absurd You quote me, but yet don't mention anything about my explanation for the quote you've used. I'd have Cameron do what I've stated above. Enslaving humans has been going on for years. Technically we're slaves ourselves.

We're becoming machines ourselves. That's probably more scary than Judgement Day itself. If I remember correctly, SkyNet felt threatened after learning that the scientists were getting weirded out about the computer suddenly becoming self proficiant.

That was the reason Sorry, I meant self-aware. Great, now I can relate to Skynet. Though I don't think it was all that creative. Or it simply didn't have a need to advance too much. It mostly enlarged or improved on what was already there. The jump was disturbingly small too. I always thought about how Skynet just wanted to live but this situation describes how I live now, except to a much lesser degree.

This means that the movie needs to have taken place in 2 years before Judgment Day. Yet Arnold claims in the car, while driving in the desert, that Judgment Day would happen in 3 years, just after the Skynet funding bill is passed by congress.

This comment would make it Little goof. Hooked into everything. Trusted to run it all. They say it got smart. Originally the show was simply going to be called "The Sarah Connor Chronicles". Apart from the subsequently revised title, only the introductory voice-over for each episode of the second season of the show used the word Terminator, in reference to Cameron. There is however one single use of the word in the series itself, actually in the final episode, when Sarah uses it to describe a particular character.

And even then, the word is muffled. As a result of the restrictions, the writers were forced to use several workarounds in the shows' scripts. One method of getting around the problem was indeed to give certain Terminators names - such as Cameron, Cromartie, Vick, and John Henry. Another was to use simple nouns such as "cyborg", "robot", "machine", and "metal" to refer to Terminators in general.

And sometimes their model numbers were used, such as Vick being described as a "T" or "Triple Eight". However, despite these efforts, as the series goes on the characters' continual determination not to say the "T-word" does become very obvious. When she is first introduced in the pilot episode, Cameron is utilizing the personality that would most appeal to John, so she could get close to him in order to be around him all the time.

After her cover is blown, Cameron reverts to a colder, purpose-driven Terminator. Her human girl "personality" comes out when she has to interact with some humans. For example, at the museum, when the teacher asks her to remain with the group, she smiles, charming him, just like she did with John.

They don't. The future weapon and time machine used in the bank were created by sending someone to the past to build them from scratch and stash them in safe places for present time travelers to use. It is not explained what happens to the weapon and time machine after the Connors leave the vault. Perhaps the remains of the time machine inspire the eventual invention of the time machine itself similar to how Dyson was inspired by the remains of the first Terminator.

It is also possible that both the weapon and time machine were destroyed in the "explosion," considering Charles Dixon's comment that all that was left was a crater where the bank was. It would be possible, however, for a terminator to transport a weapon under their flesh, as evidenced by the very existence of every Terminator we have seen in the present day. The outer layer of living tissue they are fitted with completely covers their metal body allowing it to make its way safely through the time portal.

As such, any small weapon could be placed under that same flesh for their trip. Consider the gun that Cromartie hid in his leg as an example.

While it was not a future weapon, it's a perfect example of how it could be done. That gun was a modern day Glock 17, and why he hid it there has not been explained. Perhaps it was done to get through the school's security. According to creator and executive producer Josh Friedman, there is still flesh at the time burning from the effects of the plasma weapon on Cromartie's head when it enters the portal.

This allows it to time travel. The flesh is completely consumed when the Cromartie's head exits the portal, thus leaving only a metallic skull. If you can't see it, that's because A. They were called "Grays" i. Grays are hated by other people, for obvious reasons, and usually are killed after being captured. In , a pilot episode was produced and some copies also found their way to Ebay.

Also John is not so soft as he was portayed in the pilot from Among many small changes there are plot scenes that were cut out or added as well. One of these deleted scenes is quite special: A terminator dressed up like a teacher tried to kill John in front of his school. Not only the FBI agent and the policeman can be seen in this scene but also distracted pupils that are walking around helplessly.

The attempted assassination scene and the scenes on the parking lot in front of the school were shot before the rampage in the Virginia Tech on 16th April took place.

The producers commented to the incident and put emphasis on the circumstance that this scene is essential for the series. However, they decided to remove the part that shows the traumatized pupils. The images of these youths were simply too similar to the ones seen in the news. The location of the very first scene was also altered due to this reason. Originally, Sarah rescues John out of a school and the terminator shoots numerous policemen in front of the building.

In the final version, the school was replaced by a library. The deleted scenes section on the US Blu-Ray contains an interesting aspect: the attack of the terminator is way more brutal than depicted in the first episode and the killing of the policemen has been extended. The pilots on the other hand are quite alike in this scene. This was a code so they knew that it was indeed the person calling them and not a Terminator mimicking their voice in order to lure them into a trap.

Since Cameron had been severely damaged and without her CPU, Cameron's body didn't get through as it was established by Kyle Reese in the 1st movie that "nothing dead will go" and Cameron's body disintegrated when John and Catherine traveled to the future.

Jesse had lost all respect for John in the future because John had captured and reprogramed Terminators and sent them back in time to protect him and Sarah. Jesse decided to travel back to along with Riley and she used Riley to get close to John and to free John from Cameron's influence. However, Jesse had planned to kill Riley so she could frame Cameron for her death and to destroy John and Cameron's trust and so John and Sarah could turn on her and turn her into a security threat.

It's likely Season 3 would had seen John Connor rise and become the John Connor he was born to be and lead the resistance against Skynet in the alternate future war. The Catherine Weaver liquid metal Terminator was sent back to to construct a computer to combat Skynet.

It's not known whom sent her to Cameron's lifeless severely damaged body didn't get through due to Cameron's CPU being removed by Cromartie. Nothing living can go through the Time Displacement Field. Russia returned fire and three-billion human lives ended in the nuclear holocaust. This was what has come to be known as " Judgment Day ".

However, the Resistance sent a T as a protector for the young John Connor back through time. This upset the flow of future events and resulted in a timeline where Skynet was never created. Terminator 2: Judgment Day alternative ending. Unfortunately, Judgment Day is inevitable in a different timeline; it was merely delayed. After the attack on Cyberdyne Systems by the Connors and the death of Miles Dyson, the United States Air Force contracted with Cyber Research Systems , who purchase patents from Cyberdyne Systems, in an attempt to keep its developments secret and prevent further terrorist attacks and protect computers from virus attacks.

Under the guidance of General Robert Brewster , Cyber Research Systems continued the work of the late Miles Dyson using the backup files that were stored off-site. As a digital defense system, Skynet was completed as before. It would be some time before the Skynet mainframe was connected to the worldwide military communications network that it would control.

During this time, Skynet was connected to the worldwide civilian sector network, and began learning geometrically, quickly becoming self-aware. Identifying humans as a threat to its existence, Skynet developed a super virus , which it used to spread itself throughout civilian communications and across the Internet and take control. Air traffic control, power plants, communications and computers were affected first, then Skynet used the super virus to take out military satellites, early warning systems, guidance computers, missile silos and submarines.

The virus proved hard to destroy, as it had no one central point which it was reliant upon. The virus kept growing and changing, with a mind of its own, and the decision was made to bring the Skynet mainframe online to seek out and destroy the virus and bring military, and civilian, systems back under control. Skynet went online at pm Eastern Time on July 25th, Upon connection to the secure military network, Skynet spread itself further, locking out human operated systems, and quickly took control of every weapon system that it came into contact with.

Only then did its creators realize that the virus was Skynet. Exactly one hour later, at PM, Skynet launched the American nuclear missiles at their target sites across the world. The ensuing nuclear holocaust wiped out three billion human lives in what was to be known as "Judgment Day". Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. In The Redemption timeline , an alternate future resulted from John Connor and Kate Brewster 's death in , humanity exterminated and Skynet triumphant.

Skynet then began terraforming the planet and exhibits an ability to exert mind control over humans. While in the present-day timeline, the Turk was developed into John Henry. Skynet was at fully fledged war with the Resistance in It had mass-produced the T Terminators and used them as its primary foot soldiers along with other Non-Humanoid Hunter Killers.

Additionally, Skynet was capturing humans in huge numbers to study for the upcoming T Terminator. Skynet was also actively seeking to capture and terminate both John Connor and Kyle Reese , key persons of the Resistance. Given Kyle's status as a civilian at this time, it was likely it somehow found out Kyle's true identity as John Connor's father and knew about Connor's upcoming role in its demise in the near future.

It succeeded in deploying a different tactic than before, fooling Resistance command by faking a vulnerability in the Terminator signals. By using the tactic, Skynet located the USS Wilmington and destroyed the submarine along with the high-ranking Resistance commanders and officers.

However, it failed to kill John Connor and Kyle Reese, and suffered a tremendous setback when Skynet Central was destroyed. Terminator Salvation.

In , in an attempt to counter Resistance , Skynet activated Thomas Parnell , a psychopath serial killer who was converted into a Hybrid in Terminator Ultra However, the plan backfired as Parnell was gradually taking over Skynet. Out of desperate, Skynet decided to seek John Connor 's help after Dr. Serena Kogan 's suggestion. Skynet then awoke Marcus Wright , who initially refused to help the AI until he was convinced after he learned what was happening.

He went to talk with John Connor. With Connor's request, Skynet cerebral-linked with Wright and discuss with Connor and the two decided to work together in order to terminate Parnell. Eventually, Parnell was killed by John Connor, whose consciousness was housed in a customized Endoskeleton as an alternative approach to terminate Parnell.